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Post by popcorn on Oct 28, 2018 6:53:52 GMT
Hello, someone could post a nand backup of the new USA version of the mini?
I'd like to extract the new changed games included....
Thanks.
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Post by deerwings on Nov 3, 2018 19:47:52 GMT
I can give you a zipped backup of the entire game folder, if you'd like. I would like a version of the Euro one as well.
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Post by darbyram on Nov 3, 2018 20:09:16 GMT
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Post by deerwings on Nov 3, 2018 21:10:14 GMT
I have to repackage it back up and I've just realized I started adding some of my own games to it, so I'll need to clean it up for you before I do. But thanks!
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Post by deerwings on Nov 3, 2018 21:54:07 GMT
Looks like that list is pretty much the same as the list I already had on the USA version (Though I'm in Canada), but there does seem to be a couple of other games I don't recognize. I didn't have Armalyte, and I have Jumpman Jr but most of the games look to be the same. This will bear some investigating!
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Post by popcorn on Nov 4, 2018 5:52:03 GMT
If you want you can post your entire games folder deerwings, i can recognize the USA stock files by myself. In the Euro stock versions there's something interesting inside.. there is an unused Iridis Alpha vsf file and there are screenshots of other two unused games, "Stormlord" and "Insect in Space". Here i share my added games, 84 games in total. My 84 Added Games! |
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Post by deerwings on Nov 4, 2018 15:44:29 GMT
Here's my reconstructed Original games folder, I had already monkeyed with it a bit but this was what came on mine. I'm in Canada, so the version should be the same as the US. Between the US and the Euro files, there seems to be just a couple differences! drive.google.com/open?id=1cEFT0cCAYUagBHyCwRab2zik3KKVE4KhI'm working on building my own 64 games list for my Mini with (hopefully) stock trainerless images, but it's ridiculously hard that is to find those images. A couple of mine have no choice but to have some trainers in them because a stock version of the image just can't be found. Maybe that's a topic for a new thread! Stock Disk Images with No Trainers for certain games! |
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Post by popcorn on Nov 4, 2018 16:25:18 GMT
What does it mean monkeyed? You tampered a bit the files?!?
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Post by deerwings on Nov 4, 2018 16:40:36 GMT
I meant that when I had pulled the games out, I had already started inserting some of my own, so as far as I can tell, these are all the games that originally game with my mini and are not any games I added to it. I didn't change any of the files or any of the .tsg's.
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Post by popcorn on Nov 4, 2018 16:48:43 GMT
Ok and many thanks for sharing this!! I will add the missing games in my C64mini EU Version!!
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Post by deerwings on Nov 4, 2018 16:57:48 GMT
If you can, cross-reference them with the games on thec64.com and see if there are any missing titles. Between the two of us we should be able to assemble the complete roster. When I'm finished, I will also be uploading my own Carousel of games with wortking .tsgs and are tested to work with minimal fuss as well. Things like Bruce Lee, Blue Max, both Turricans, I've been digging super hard to try to find as many of these games without trainers as possible.
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Post by spannernick on Nov 4, 2018 19:20:55 GMT
Why did they change the name of Jumpman Junior to Jumpman 2,I have looked all over the net and its never been called that,was it a rights problem or something why they changed the name,even on Lemon64 its called Jumpman Junior...?
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Post by ShaneRMonroe on Nov 4, 2018 22:01:53 GMT
Why did they change the name of Jumpman Junior to Jumpman 2,I have looked all over the net and its never been called that,was it a rights problem or something why they changed the name,even on Lemon64 its called Jumpman Junior...? I'd be curious to know that too. The built in games vary from the versions I knew as well - Jumpman doesn't even seem right - and the sounds is quite off, too. I noticed on another thread, you mentioned finding non-trainer versions of games. Would you be willing to share? |
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Post by deerwings on Nov 5, 2018 4:25:01 GMT
I'll be happy to share all the games i can find that are as non-trainer as possible. Some of them are extremely hard to find, it's like a lot of folks in the past were obsessed with cracking and training them. I have 44 games in my list right now that I'm building and at least one has a trainer I think but at least it's relatively simple to deactivate. Most of the games I'm trying to build into mine I want to be able to wholly control without having to sue the keyboard, virtual or otherwise.
I wish I knew a way to make multi-disk games like SSI RPG's work. I hope they flash an update that allows you to quick-swap disks without having to reload entire games.
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Post by crispin on Nov 5, 2018 4:35:10 GMT
Kinda off-topic, but it could help: For making list of your games that is easily readable (and easy to make one), you can use ASCIIFlow online tool. asciiflow.com/With that I separated list to columns at Mini Wiki. Now, to make a game list (instead screenshot) at Linux, I'm using "ls > gamelist.txt". I don't know how to make it easily at Windows w/o e.g. Total Commander. |
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Post by ShaneRMonroe on Nov 5, 2018 4:53:13 GMT
I'll be happy to share all the games i can find that are as non-trainer as possible. Some of them are extremely hard to find, it's like a lot of folks in the past were obsessed with cracking and training them. I have 44 games in my list right now that I'm building and at least one has a trainer I think but at least it's relatively simple to deactivate. Most of the games I'm trying to build into mine I want to be able to wholly control without having to sue the keyboard, virtual or otherwise. I wish I knew a way to make multi-disk games like SSI RPG's work. I hope they flash an update that allows you to quick-swap disks without having to reload entire games. Why do I keep thinking that there was a big preservation project that had thousands of "pristine" disk images of original disks? I could be confusing this with an Amiga project... |
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Post by deerwings on Nov 5, 2018 5:08:39 GMT
Just open a dos prompt for Windows, navigate to your directory eg E:, then type dir /w > directory.txt and you get a similar file as ls > gamelist.txt
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Post by deerwings on Nov 5, 2018 5:09:30 GMT
I'll be happy to share all the games i can find that are as non-trainer as possible. Some of them are extremely hard to find, it's like a lot of folks in the past were obsessed with cracking and training them. I have 44 games in my list right now that I'm building and at least one has a trainer I think but at least it's relatively simple to deactivate. Most of the games I'm trying to build into mine I want to be able to wholly control without having to sue the keyboard, virtual or otherwise. I wish I knew a way to make multi-disk games like SSI RPG's work. I hope they flash an update that allows you to quick-swap disks without having to reload entire games. Why do I keep thinking that there was a big preservation project that had thousands of "pristine" disk images of original disks? I could be confusing this with an Amiga project... There was one, but the disk images are not publically accessable. There's also the C64 Forever thing but you have to pay for it and it turns out they have a ton of archived trainer games as well, so it's not that helpful. |
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Post by spannernick on Nov 5, 2018 12:43:46 GMT
If you want a non trainer game I can make one if you want,just give me the name of the game you want..? If you want a multi game to work I have a idea but not going to talk about yet cos I don't know if it will work yet..  Name a multi game disk I can work on to see if it will work..? |
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Post by deerwings on Nov 5, 2018 15:55:27 GMT
Try grabbing a copy of Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday, it's a well known SSI game that requires multi-disk. And you know how to de-trainer games? If you can, that would be epic. I have a few games that I want to include in my Carousel that seem to be trainer versions that shouldn't be, like Bloodwych. Here's a link from C64.com www.c64.com/games/1282 |
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Post by ShaneRMonroe on Nov 6, 2018 2:23:20 GMT
I'll be happy to share all the games i can find that are as non-trainer as possible. Some of them are extremely hard to find, it's like a lot of folks in the past were obsessed with cracking and training them. I have 44 games in my list right now that I'm building and at least one has a trainer I think but at least it's relatively simple to deactivate. Most of the games I'm trying to build into mine I want to be able to wholly control without having to sue the keyboard, virtual or otherwise. I wish I knew a way to make multi-disk games like SSI RPG's work. I hope they flash an update that allows you to quick-swap disks without having to reload entire games. How do the Easy Flash people put multiple games in .crt format? I mean, I have one with Legacy of the Ancients AND Legend of Blacksilver - all in one - and those discs were NOT standard DOS ....? |
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Post by ShaneRMonroe on Nov 6, 2018 2:24:17 GMT
Try grabbing a copy of Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday, it's a well known SSI game that requires multi-disk. And you know how to de-trainer games? If you can, that would be epic. I have a few games that I want to include in my Carousel that seem to be trainer versions that shouldn't be, like Bloodwych. Here's a link from C64.com www.c64.com/games/1282Better yet - share the skill. I would LOVE to detrain games ... |
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Post by darbyram on Nov 6, 2018 13:40:59 GMT
Try grabbing a copy of Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday, it's a well known SSI game that requires multi-disk. And you know how to de-trainer games? If you can, that would be epic. I have a few games that I want to include in my Carousel that seem to be trainer versions that shouldn't be, like Bloodwych. Here's a link from C64.com www.c64.com/games/1282Better yet - share the skill. I would LOVE to detrain games ... Could you not just load the game in vice, then do a snapshot after you have got past the trainer bit? |
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Post by deerwings on Nov 6, 2018 14:28:47 GMT
I have not gotten Vice Snapshots to work properly. I tried with a couple, but then they would lock up from time to time, so I'm looking into that.
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Post by groepaz on Nov 6, 2018 15:15:59 GMT
on your sharing platform of choice, look for the "C64 Preservation Project" anniversary torrent, it contains images of original disks. another good source is "Gamebase64", there also should be a torrent that has the full set (original games are in the "extras" directory).
as for the VICE snapshots (.vsf files) - they shouldnt be used as "permanent" storage. because of how they work, you can only ever load them reliably with the exact same emulator version that created them (and even then there might be issues related to 32bit vs 64bit). that makes it a bit fiddly to create "perfect" ones for the c64mini, because we dont know exactly what emulator they used (its x64, and its close to the 2.4 version - no further info in it however)
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Post by deerwings on Nov 6, 2018 17:15:45 GMT
on your sharing platform of choice, look for the "C64 Preservation Project" anniversary torrent, it contains images of original disks. another good source is "Gamebase64", there also should be a torrent that has the full set (original games are in the "extras" directory). as for the VICE snapshots (.vsf files) - they shouldnt be used as "permanent" storage. because of how they work, you can only ever load them reliably with the exact same emulator version that created them (and even then there might be issues related to 32bit vs 64bit). that makes it a bit fiddly to create "perfect" ones for the c64mini, because we dont know exactly what emulator they used (its x64, and its close to the 2.4 version - no further info in it however)
The one thing I do know is that they are Vice 2.4 vsfs, but the version of Vice 2.4 used for the C64 mini may not be quite the same version as the one on Vice's site even if it's 64 bit. I'm going to try some experimenting at a later time when I have some to see what I can reliably reproduce and then see if I can troubleshoot it. Additionally, there may be things included in the snapshot that shouldn't be, or things that aren't that should be. This is why I much prefer the actual d64/d81/d82.crt images because they work much easier and they compress just as small.
Though once I've finished building my library of 64 games for my Mini that I am satisfied with, I'll just only ever load files from USB for anything not built in, I just wanted my own little Mini with a Carousel I could be proud of. So far, almost there, I've only got something like 20 games left to go!
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Post by spannernick on Nov 7, 2018 21:19:08 GMT
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Post by deerwings on Nov 7, 2018 21:25:06 GMT
I'll have to get the CRT when I get home and give it a try to see what's needed. I went looking for a crt version the other day and couldn't find one. Good find, though!
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Post by darbyram on Nov 7, 2018 21:47:52 GMT
Comes up with "insert side A, and press any key? |
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Post by spannernick on Nov 7, 2018 22:50:28 GMT
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Name a multi game disk I can work on to see if it will work..?
